Movie????

[Ace13]

Are they going to make a movie?? I read the book and it was really good. So i was just wondering if they are. It would be really cool if they did :)

[princessheart]

oo that would be sooooo kewl i really hope that they do but im not sure if they will.:)

[magic50222]

there will be a movie, Mr.Frank Beddorcame to our school and said there will be one!:)

[McGeesJabberwock]

I remember Mr Beddor saying in an interview that he had originally planned LGW as a movie, and it shows. Boy, does it show. The emotional scenes in LGW feel like they need visualisation and music to work, because wthout them, they're just plain sappy. (A lot of Charles Dickens' work was rather sappy as well, but Tiny Tim's death in The Muppet Christmas Carol is probably one of the most tear-jerking scenes on celluloid). Anyway...casting...

Alyss - Kate Beckinsale
Dodge - Hayden Christensen
Hatter - Hugh Jackman
Bibwit - Anthony Hopkins or Michael Caine
Redd - Anne Robinson
The Cat - Tim Curry
Jack - Steve Buscemi
Lewis Carroll - Bill Murray

BTW, has anyone heard about Marilyn Manson's film Phantasmagoria, about the life of Lewis Carroll?

[The White Knight]

The Casting is fairly sound, except...

The Cat- Crispin Glover
Dodge- Christian Bale
Alyss- Hayden Panettiere
Redd- Shannyn Sossoman (kidding... but... maybe)

[Ace13]

This is what i think the cast should be...


Alyss- Hayden Panettiere
Dodge- Alex Pettyfer
Redd- Shannyn Sossamon (White Knight I like this idea)
The Cat- Steve Buscemi or Tim Curry
Hatter- Hugh Jackman
Bibwit- Sean Connery
Jack- Chad Michael Murray

[McGeesJabberwock]

But Anne Robinson would be perfect as Redd! She can make grown men tremble with the single utterance of 'You are the weakest link, goodbye.'

[Ace13]

Yes she would be good as Redd, but I thought Redd would be a pretty looking evil person and Anne Robinson well she just plan evil.

[Cheshire_Cat]

I think Chad Michael Murry would make a good Dodge. Naturally, Tim Curry should play The Cat.. Anjelica huston should be Redd. Hmmm.. who should play Alyss? I think Reese Witherspoon or Julia Stiles for the 'older' Alyss. As for the Tutor... Ben Stien! Hatter M.- thats a hard one....

[The White Knight]

I don't know why people are bent on tim curry as the cat. Maybe the old Rocky Horror tim curry, or Tim curry playing the VOICE of the cat, but this Cat is NOTHING like the cheshire cat. He's villanous and pure evil and very creepy.

Ben Stein would be HORRIBLE as Bibwit. Did you read the book? Bibwit is an overactive and very animated character. He should have a higher, more shrill and multitoned voice, opposed to Ben Stein. Actually, Curry wouldn't be bad for Bibwit. Remember, he did play an amazing butler for Clue.

[McGeesJabberwock]

I don't know why people are bent on tim curry as the cat. Maybe the old Rocky Horror tim curry, or Tim curry playing the VOICE of the cat, but this Cat is NOTHING like the cheshire cat. He's villanous and pure evil and very creepy.

Ben Stein would be HORRIBLE as Bibwit. Did you read the book? Bibwit is an overactive and very animated character. He should have a higher, more shrill and multitoned voice, opposed to Ben Stein. Actually, Curry wouldn't be bad for Bibwit. Remember, he did play an amazing butler for Clue.

Perhaps it's because Curry played a lot of bad guys, his best being King Chicken from Duckman. I haven't seen Clue, but I thought of Michael Caine for Bibwit based on his role in Batman Begins.

[TenchinoYami]

i think Sarah Michelle Gellar would make a good Redd
lolz just because
or whoever plays Faith in Buffy
u kno
the girl that becomes a cheerleader in bring it on
she'd be kool too
or mayb as Molly

[McGeesJabberwock]

i think Sarah Michelle Gellar would make a good Redd


SMG is playing Alice in the upcoming American McGee's Alice movie, just so you know.

[TenchinoYami]

yea i heard that
wenz that kumn out anywayz

[break bones]

Dodge - Hayden Christensen

I don't like him for that role. Another one, please. :o

[Queen Alyss Heart]

Ok I know you have read the book and yet you are still casting a blonde as Alyss Heart is as the book says a brunette haired girl and a raven haired adult :)

[Queen Alyss Heart]

now i like other peoples ideas yes like
Shannyn Sossamon as red would be very good I like that(maybe Anjelica Huston)
and Hugh Jackman as the hatter that would be very interresting
I sorta like Steve Buscemi as the cat cuase if you have seen Reservoir Dogs you know he can play a ruthless killer but the creepy thin guys no
and as for dogde I would kill the person who would ever cast chad micheal murry as dogde besides dogde is brunette and Bein Stein would make a horrible bibwit harte have you not seen farris bullers day off but as for Michael Caine that would be awsome

now as for alyss Julia Stiles would be good because she was good in 10 things I hate about you (which as some of you know is a remake of William Shakespeare's Tamming Of The Shrew)but only if she died her hair as for reese witherspoon I wouldn't really like her as this role


for molly I like Eliza Dushku she would be cool
and as for jack I like Sam Rockwell he can play that hatable character
and General Doppelganger would be cool as Sean Connery
and Stuart Townsend would make a good Leopld

[TenchinoYami]

i just hope the casting directors have as much good sense as u do

[The White Knight]

A Blonde Alyss would be fine. The dark hair wouldn't be as appealing. Yes, yes, we all know the book goes that way, but if you think about appealing themes in film, a light, pure character should have repetition of things light, so light hair would be suitable.

SMG is such a trite choice. She doesnt convey the purity and innocence needed for Alyss. She gets way too many jobs based on the fact that she has a nerdy cult following.

In addition to Hayden as alyss, Scarlett Johansson may be a good choice

[curiousgenius]

As opposed to other accounts, it ought to be somewhat like the casting in the Harry Potter movies. You can't keep the same actors around forever, they should cast some newbies for the roles, introduce new people, it would be much more exciting, I think. As for Hugh Jackman being the Hatter, it reminds me of what he looked like in Van Helsing, if so, I think he's too large of a figure, ad putting him and Kate Beckinsale in the same movie sounds a bit disasterous.

A blonde Alyss would be terrible, her hair is constatly recurring throughout the books, she even exclaims that she has the wrong hair color when Lewis Carroll brings the book to her. It would be a bit tedious if the whole cast was British of some sort, or it was just another one of those fantastical movies where someone had said, " It's like Eragon and every other fantasy book, everyone has an accent," it just gets old after a while. I hope they do it when Alyss goes to London etc, but I fear they'll accent-ify every character, which is fine. But the whole cast Caucasian is too much, Wonderland is a totally different world, the people would look different, right? Oh well.

Just an opinion.

[ObsceneBlue]

I really like the idea of a LGW movie, the book is so much like a movie, in the desriptions of landscapes, fights and general action. I can't wait to see it in theaters!!!!

I've been drawing like crazy in my sketchbook since I finished reading the book, but I didn't suceed a full and clean fanart, I hope I'll finish at least one drawing, so I can ask advices from people who have read the book here^^"

Btw, I'm new around here, Name is Alicia, 22 from Paris, nice to meet you guys!

[The White Knight]

Actually, the little homless boy in london says that alyss has a strange accent unlike he had ever heard.

I'll comment on the blonde alyss thing later, when i dont have to work....

[princessheart]

[QUOTE=ObsceneBlue]I really like the idea of a LGW movie, the book is so much like a movie, in the desriptions of landscapes, fights and general action. I can't wait to see it in theaters!!!!

I've been drawing like crazy in my sketchbook since I finished reading the book, but I didn't suceed a full and clean fanart, I hope I'll finish at least one drawing, so I can ask advices from people who have read the book here^^"


i agree i think they would look rlly kewl on screen... also alyss a blonde yea that so doesnt work..

about the whole drawing thing i have one im working on and idk i think its missing something but i dont know wat it is:mad: o well lol

urs truly
princess heart

[The White Knight]

You have to look further into the composition of film rather than a book. If it weren't for Alyss LITERALLY GLOWING, she doesn't seem to be radiant with light, does she? No, no she does not. If you haven't noticed, a lot of movie adaptations of books are missing or have changed parts. An alice with blonde hair would easily give off a shine of its own, without having a strange glow about her ALL the time (which would serve to be more distracting than anything else), and a blonde alyss would be just one small change from book to movie, and it would be generally helpful for the film.

[Crystal_Heart]

Alyss - Kate Beckinsale, perfect for this role
Hatter - Hugh Jackman
Bibwit - Michael Caine
Redd – Julian Moore or Nicole Kidman
Dodge- if he could be serious Ryan Reynolds, he has the perfect look and would look great with Kate

[The White Knight]

NO KATE BECKINSALE. Milla Jovovich is even a better role than Beckinsale. Holy crap.

WAIT NO, I've got it.

Anne Hathaway. I'm not sure if anyone brought her up yet.

And... also, for some holidy cheer, try hot coco with peppermint schnapps.

[DthStlkr13]

Funny... I've actually been thinking about this same subject over the past couple of days. My only concern is that it becomes a cheap crappy made B-rated gore/horror flick.

Just hope that whomever actually does this movie does a good job. Otherwise... it shouldn't be done. Do it right... or not at all...

[The White Knight]

It wouldn't be a horror flick, but they should definitely wait. We had LOTR, then Narnia, then Eragon, so if LGW came along now, it would just be following a trend.... a crappy, crappy trend.

[swankyhat]

I'm not actor savvy enough to make insightful comments on most characters actor possibilities, however...

I think that while Hugh Jackman is an obvious choice for Hatter, I think that Christian Bale would excel in the role. Gruff him up a little, make him put on one of his accents and bam!, an awesome Hatter Madigan. I'm mainly of this opinion because of his skills as an action actor, attempting/doing many of his own stunts.

[DthStlkr13]

It wouldn't be a horror flick, but they should definitely wait.

That's kinda what I meant... hoping they wouldn't make it that. :)

[Shendran]

I think that it would be a good idea aslong as the director did the movie just like the book.:) And Christian Bale does seem like a good actor to play Hattigan.

[dark_faerie_knight]

movie...i really hope so. it would be soo awesome...:D
but do u guys think the trilogy should be finished first? i mean, u could already make a movie about the firlst book rite now and then build up on it.
either way, it woulg be great. im looking foreward to it. :)

:( but i dont approve of the casting...they could change it i guess...

[princessofrealms]

i dont really like the idea of it becoming a movie just because im scared to see it ruined. and if anything they'd make it into a romance w/ some action. people go for fluff too much so that's what people would probably make. i'd definately see the movie but depending on how well it's made. i'd prolly walk away dissatisfied.

[xTwilightKissx]

hmmm. I've been reading these posts and i do agree with some and disagree with some. But half of me is hoping for a movie, then the other isn't. I mean yeah they made harry potter, then LOTR, then Eragon <<which i was HIGHLY dissapointed in. But they only turn books into movies b/c they are running out of ideas and are reduced to turning to other people for help. But maybe if creating a movie perhaps they could use this casting...

Alyss- maybe a new face
Dodge- highly recommend Garrett Hedlund <3
Hatter- Hugh Jackman, and i don't know why but MAYBE christian slater
Redd- Angelina Jolie with the black hair...idk but i see her being pretty vicious. And also reading the book I saw Redd being a bit young..
Bibwit- is hard..don't know yet

that's all i have for today. Don't impale me with too harsh of comments

[emokit]

Alyss - Keira Knightley - pretty and a good fighter
Dodge - Hayden Christensen - moody yet oh so hot
Hatter - Keanu Reeves - if u've seen matrix, you know what i mean
Redd - Sigourny Weaver - doesn't even need a reason, she's amazing
Bibwit Harte - Michael Cane - who else?
Jack of Diamonds - Lucas Grabeel - He would make such a hot bad guy

[Nik315]

Alyss-Jennifer Gardner(Alias, cant think of how to spell her last name
Dodge-Hayden Christensen
Hatter-Hug Jackman
Tutor-Sir Ian McKellan
Redd-Alice Krigg(woman that played Cristabell in Silent Hill, She was creepy)

[QueenAlyss]

I know that someone mentioned Nicole Kidman for Redd, but I actually think that she would make a great Genevive.

And then, as for Lucas Grabeel for Jack of Diamonds...no. Jack isn't supposed to be..hot. Although I do think that Lucas should be in this movie...where, I have not a clue...maybe as the Prince that Alice almost marries?

And, if this movie turns out like Eragon, (which was NOTHING like the book...which I'm reading now, but I can see the differences between the movie and book already), then I will be very mad. I will sue!:mad:

[Verrici]

Okay the best person I can see being Redd is Morgan Webb. A host on X-play.
http://www.celebrity9.com/img/morgan-webb/morgan-webb-1.jpg
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And I'll say this it is goning to be kinda hard to have some REAL actors doing the characters in My opinon. The best way to make this movie is to animate it to the point where it is kinda sorta not child like.

[Sex.C.Bear]

All new Actors! im Sick of seeing actors with the same image in one movie think they can play it in another were the character is completely different! This Story needs new actors that have never been seen before to being out it true uniqueness, i agree that some of the actors named would fit the roll looks wise but they have been seen in somany rolls im afraid they will show through and become there pass charater in a diferent movie instead of play the characters in LGW's.

Nuf said

NEW Actors for the film please! Some experenced actors is ok but not the whole cast!

Sex.C.Bear

BTW.. NO F**KING WAY should Chad Michael Murray be Dodge....... thats just wrong! Dodge Needs to be a Strong Manly Figuer. Not a pretty Boy Prince charming Losser! let him stick to play with Hillery Muff i...i...mean Duff:p

[Alyss of Hearts]

thank goodness i am not the only one who thinks he looks like a weakling pretty boy priss

[Sex.C.Bear]

thank goodness i am not the only one who thinks he looks like a weakling pretty boy priss



Amen to that!:D

[Alyss of Hearts]

Amen to that!:D


But seriously they need someone who looks tough but not like a caveman. He is fine if this was a romance film(yuck). Who do you think should play dodge.

[Sex.C.Bear]

im acctuallly not to sure! maybe someone new?? i agree with the not cave man like statement but it needs to be someone who you can see the pain and sorrow in his eyes just by looking into them!

[dark_faerie_knight]

This Story needs new actors that have never been seen before to being out it true uniqueness, i agree that some of the actors named would fit the roll looks wise but they have been seen in somany rolls im afraid they will show through and become there pass charater in a diferent movie instead of play the characters in LGW's.

Nuf said

NEW Actors for the film please! Some experenced actors is ok but not the whole cast!

Sex.C.Bear

BTW.. NO F**KING WAY should Chad Michael Murray be Dodge....... thats just wrong! Dodge Needs to be a Strong Manly Figuer. Not a pretty Boy Prince charming Losser! let him stick to play with Hillery Muff i...i...mean Duff:p

HELL NO!!!!!! if chad is dodge, thatll ruin everything!!! he just DOESNT LOOK LIKE THE CHARACTER!!! not physically, but literally. i think chad is a wimp and not a goof enuff actor to suit the dodge character. anyone girl who is head over heels over chad are yucky girly girls and whoever wants him for dodge should effing die!!! DIE! DIE! DIE!:mad: :mad: :mad: *inhales, exhales*

[Alyss of Hearts]

im acctuallly not to sure! maybe someone new?? i agree with the not cave man like statement but it needs to be someone who you can see the pain and sorrow in his eyes just by looking into them!


Amen to you my people

[Alyss of Hearts]

i dont really like the idea of it becoming a movie just because im scared to see it ruined. and if anything they'd make it into a romance w/ some action. people go for fluff too much so that's what people would probably make. i'd definately see the movie but depending on how well it's made. i'd prolly walk away dissatisfied.



right back at ya on that one but if they get people that arent actors and look like the description of the characters and can act it would be perfect

[dark_faerie_knight]

right back at ya on that one but if they get people that arent actors and look like the description of the characters and can act it would be perfect

most agreed alyss of hearts. [and to everyone]
right now, im NOT looking forward to a movie. my mind has changed. if there is anything that would make it suck ass, it would be the actors and parts of the book that they[director and whomever] edited out in the movie. dont u guys notice they always do that? they always take the best part and shorten it, or the director takes out a good part in the book that should of been int the movie. like they did with the harry potter movies. nothing more said...:D

[Sex.C.Bear]

so very true! i can under stand why they did it in lord of the rings tho! as it would have taken twice aslong to film if they had done all the scenes! but there were still some that i think they should have put in like the meeting of bombadil! but this is LGW forums so ill shut up!

[xTwilightKissx]

i agree with saying chad michael murray NOT playing Dodge. I think Garret Hedlund would make a good choice :)

[dark_faerie_knight]

:o
so very true! i can under stand why they did it in lord of the rings tho! as it would have taken twice aslong to film if they had done all the scenes! but there were still some that i think they should have put in like the meeting of bombadil! but this is LGW forums so ill shut up!

no need to shut up about it, that is very true. ur rite, if they hadnt cut down lord of the rings, it would have been forever. i have a bad feeling that they might cut a piece off of LGW if they do do a movie. lets just keep it as a book. itll be better that way, for now.:o

[dark_faerie_knight]

i agree with saying chad michael murray NOT playing Dodge. I think Garret Hedlund would make a good choice :)
most agreed:D

[Anailee Hunter]

I think they should go out and find new people for this book no one well known I always felt that ruined a good book.

[RebelMolly]

Ok so I have just a few points to cover...

1. I'm not so sure about this movie thing... it might ruin it and it might be a good movie that does not really go with the books (like the Harry Potter movies)... I like the idea but I think that if anyone directed it would have to be Frank Beddor because one *he's a director! a good one* and two *it's his book*! Yeah that point covered.

2. Yes i think that the actors should really be new... you know like in the Harry Potter movies and the Eragon movie. Yes i like Julia stiles for Alyss but still I'm leaning toward new!

3. Murray (I refuse to call him*anything* else) should never ever star in an action movie becasue he would ruin it. I don't even think he should star in any movie but that is my opinion. We need someone rugged and reckless looking for Dodge because otherwise he will just collapse on himself. Jack cannot be *anyone* hot because he is supposed to be the fat ugly person that Alyss might be forced to marry once she's older... not good. Hatter should look dangerous, Redd evil, Molly mischevious, and Bibwit intelligent and not a fighter.

Yeah thats it... for now.

Oh and Alyss should be beautiful but dangerously beautiful not just pretty.

RebelMolly

[Anailee Hunter]

Its says that she is drop dead gorgeous though. . . .

[aliddellobsessed]

I think what concerns me is that people are focusing on older actors. Kate Beckinsale is by no means young. And furthermore, she's already played Alice and did a horrible job of it.

On top of that: The reason Alyss/Alice is dark haired is because the little girl that inspired the book was a brunette with dark eyes. The whole combination of the fantastical and the real gave the book a new degree of interest, and thus, making Alyss/Alice a blonde would moderately ruin what the book is doing. The details of Alice's life were held to within reason, although no one can confirm her affair with the Prince. However, turning Alyss into a blonde would spoil the effect, at least I think.

It might also be prudent to look at pictures of Alice Liddell and examine who might look similar, but still beautiful, in the acting world. Albeit unheard of names are always good, they do not guarantee a good performance.

For actors, I personally love Jewel Staite. She's beautiful, has wonderful acting skills, and is fairly unknown. Albeit she is Canadian, so I'm uncertain of her accent capabilities, nor what accent is required. For Dodge? I'm not certain. I don't watch enough television and movies to have a sense of someone to play him.

But if you want to see Kate Beckinsale attempt Alice, watch the BBC production of Through the Looking Glass staring Beckinsale. I'll let you formulate your own opinions on that... work.

[xTwilightKissx]

I don't know if it was just me (probably is) but was anyone a little bit dissapointed the way Jack turned out? I was kinda hoping for Dodge's supposed rival to be more...well different. I was hoping for this tall, thin, dark looking guy, with black hair and pericing ice blue eyes :( ...and to be atleast somewhat handsome in a dark way

[aliddellobsessed]

I understand what you mean, but on the contrary, I think Jack will turn out even more dangerous at a later date. If you've read Stephen King's The Stand than look at Harold Lauder. "Every dog gets his day" and in the end, well, Harold is a vicious thing to be dealt with. Jack holds potential for something darker than the simple rival, something obsessed and twisted. That is if Beddor adds a touch of realism to the character versus the simplistic and one-faceted nature that he has currently been working on.

Each character seems to be Never Never Land's fairy. They can only have one emotion at a time so that it is what they're portrayed as. I'd like to see something more developed in the way of the characters. So give Jack time. I think Beddor will come to realize such things as he looks at Seeing Redd. But if I'm wrong, then oh well. It's his novel.

[xTwilightKissx]

hmmm, very true

[Anailee Hunter]

I understand what you mean, but on the contrary, I think Jack will turn out even more dangerous at a later date. If you've read Stephen King's The Stand than look at Harold Lauder. "Every dog gets his day" and in the end, well, Harold is a vicious thing to be dealt with. Jack holds potential for something darker than the simple rival, something obsessed and twisted. That is if Beddor adds a touch of realism to the character versus the simplistic and one-faceted nature that he has currently been working on.

Each character seems to be Never Never Land's fairy. They can only have one emotion at a time so that it is what they're portrayed as. I'd like to see something more developed in the way of the characters. So give Jack time. I think Beddor will come to realize such things as he looks at Seeing Redd. But if I'm wrong, then oh well. It's his novel.


I agree his characters are not very well developed at the moment he has them to be very shallow, but usually when an author does that it is because they plan on killing them off soon and they were only used to develop the story.

[Ravidizh]

I've read an interview in which Mr. Beddor says that
Danny Day-Lewis is going to play hatter!
I think it would be a GREAT choice! :D

[aliddellobsessed]

If we were to assume every non-developed character was going to die, I hate to say it, but a lot of Beddor's characters would not have made it through the first cut of characters back when Alyss' mum had her head severed from her head.

Nor would most of them have survived the book. So I hate to say that I just generally believe, until further evidence is provided, that most of Beddor's characters are poorly written.

[dark_faerie_knight]

u guys know eva green? i think she'ld make a good alyss.:D thats what i think know. i dont know about dodge but alyss should be green. she's not that famous yet but has done very good roles in some of her movies.

http://www.moviehole.net/img/evagreen.jpg

[Princess Alyss Heart]

ok, well i think that Kristen Kreuk should play the roll as the older Alyss because she is "drop dead gorgeous" and her acting would fit. As for Dodge...anyone but chad michael murray!! He so does not fit the part. Although I agree that Hayden Christensen should play the older Dodge. As for the younger Alyss and Dodge, i think there should be new faces. i have no clue for anyone else though....:confused:

BTW does anyone know when the movie might come out?

[dark_faerie_knight]

im not even sure they even started filming...i havta agree...its not taht well known...w/e i really dont care...

kruek isnt that gorgeous...:D

[Hatter's Blade 36]

Quote from McGeesJabberwock's first post:
Alyss - Kate Beckinsale
Dodge - Hayden Christensen
Hatter - Hugh Jackman
Bibwit - Anthony Hopkins or Michael Caine
Redd - Anne Robinson
The Cat - Tim Curry
Jack - Steve Buscemi
Lewis Carroll - Bill Murray

My Suggestions:
Alyss-Sarah Bolger
Dodge-Alex Pettyfer
Hatter Hayden Christensen
Bibwit- Tim Curry
Redd- Idina Menzel (Was great with the character of Elphaba, (For the non-broadway fans she (Elphaba) is the Wicked Witch of the West))
The Cat-(Voice only) Mickey Rourke ( Might not be able to have an accent, but I don't see the Cat with an accent)
Jack- Skander Keynes
Lewis Carrol-Jonathan Pryce (I know he's a bit old, but he would be great, in my opinion)

[ReadingChick]

My Suggestions:
Alyss-Sarah Bolger
Dodge-Alex Pettyfer
Hatter Hayden Christensen
Bibwit- Tim Curry
Redd- Idina Menzel (Was great with the character of Elphaba, (For the non-broadway fans she (Elphaba) is the Wicked Witch of the West))
The Cat-(Voice only) Mickey Rourke ( Might not be able to have an accent, but I don't see the Cat with an accent)
Jack- Skander Keynes
Lewis Carrol-Jonathan Pryce (I know he's a bit old, but he would be great, in my opinion)

Mmm. I haven't heard of most of those, but Hayden Christensen as Hatter? I don't think that works. I would agree with Dodge, but I think that Hatter should be someone a bit older and more dangerous looking.

[I wish i had a top hat]

I think the Cat will just be animated and that they will only need a voice for him and I think Mickey Rouke is a pretty good idea

[xTwilightKissx]

i like the guy who did vincent valentine's voice for final fantasy VII; advent children. i think his voice would be a bit chilling for the cat

[Alice]

A Blonde Alyss would be fine. The dark hair wouldn't be as appealing. Yes, yes, we all know the book goes that way, but if you think about appealing themes in film, a light, pure character should have repetition of things light, so light hair would be suitable.

SMG is such a trite choice. She doesnt convey the purity and innocence needed for Alyss. She gets way too many jobs based on the fact that she has a nerdy cult following.

I think a lot of fans would be pretty annoyed if they changed her hair colour though, just to make her more appealing. We know her as a brunette, picture her in our minds eye like that.

I always felt Eliza Dushku (Faith) would make a better Alice for Amercian McGees, but as long as SMG (who I love) has the brunette hair she's sporting now, I'm ok with it.

I don't like details that needn't be changed be done so, just for the sake of it.

[godhi]

Here is my view of the cast of The Looking Glass Wars as a feature film:

Alyss--Thora Birch
Dodge--Orlando Bloom
Hatter--Hugh Jackman
Bibwit--Anthony Hopkins
Redd--Uma Thurman
The Cat--Tim Curry
Jack--Jack Davenport
Lewis Carroll--Jonathan Pryce

Although I like the idea of Anthony Hopkins as Bibwit, Hugh Jackman as Hatter, and Tim Curry (who else?) as The Cat, Alyss should be played by an actress in her early twenties, and Thora Birch would be excellent for the role.
Orlando Bloom would likewise be good as Dodge, and Jack Davenport would be perfect to play the role of Lord Jack of Diamonds. As far as Queen Redd is concerned, I think Uma Thurman would be an interesting villain, since she has developed a terrific range as an actress and is good at playing the role of the character obsessed with vengeance at the expense of everything else.

[Queen Alyss]

Alyss - Kate Beckinsale
Dodge - Hayden Christensen
Hatter - Hugh Jackman
Bibwit - Anthony Hopkins or Michael Caine
Redd - Anne Robinson
The Cat - Tim Curry
Jack - Steve Buscemi
Lewis Carroll - Bill Murray

I think Kate Beckinsale would be the perfect adult Alyss. Also, I personally think Hayden Christensen can't act at all.

[xTwilightKissx]

I think Kate Beckinsale would be the perfect adult Alyss. Also, I personally think Hayden Christensen can't act at all.


he really sucked when i saw the revenge of the sith movie

[HeartyHeather]

I think Kate Beckinsale would be the perfect adult Alyss. Also, I personally think Hayden Christensen can't act at all.
I like Kate Beckinsale as Alyss. She played her in Through the Looking Glass back in the day. It was an odd movie but interesting nonetheless. I'd love it is she played Alyss!

[Queen Alyss]

I like Kate Beckinsale as Alyss. She played her in Through the Looking Glass back in the day. It was an odd movie but interesting nonetheless. I'd love it is she played Alyss!


Yes, that movie was quite interesting.

[Lady_Melisma]

I agree: Kate Beckinsale would not make a good Alyss. She's just too old for the role. If she were cast as Redd it might make for an interesting contrast (playing the villain instead of the heroine). Likewise Milla Jovovich.

As for the Alyss role, what about Rachael Henley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachael_Henley)? She's British, relatively unknown, about the right age for Alyss as an adult, and not unattractive (but not an overwhelmingly beauty either). Her sister Georgie was the young actress who played Lucy Penvensie in the Narnia film; between them perhaps the Henley sisters could take on the role of Alyss Heart?

[HeartyHeather]

I looked at the picture and she looks pretty good. Except for the fact that Alyss is supposed to be this awesome beauty who surpasses everyone around her. She's pretty but I don't like she's attractive enough to play Alyss. Her little sister either. I like Milla Jovovich. I don't know if I can see her in the movie though...

[Queen Alyss]

I still think Kate (http://artguru.info/img/Keyt-Bekinseyl.Kate-Beckinsale1280x1024.jpg) would be the perfect adult Alyss. Her daughter (http://lilysheen.fanlounge.org/gallery/albums/movies/underworldpromo/001.jpg)could even be yong Alyss.

[Lady_Melisma]

I still think Kate (http://artguru.info/img/Keyt-Bekinseyl.Kate-Beckinsale1280x1024.jpg) would be the perfect adult Alyss.

As I said, it's my personal opinion that Kate, at 33, is perhaps too mature to play 20-year-old Alyss. I'm twenty, my friends are twenty, I'm just going by how I feel. It's the same when actors and actresses in their mid-to-late twenties portray teenagers on television - they look great on the camera, but it's not realistic. And am I making any sense at all?

Although I will concur that Lily Sheen would make a remarkable young Alyss. If I could cast Kate as Genevieve and Milla as Redd I would.

[Queen Alyss]

I suppose so... but she's just so pretty!

[Mobius]

I personally would prefer Johnny Depp for Hatter with Viggo Mortensen for adult Dodge and Jim Carrey for Bibwit.

But that's just my opinion.

[Queen Alyss]

Ooh Ooh! Viggo for Hatter. [He's WAY too old for Dodge]

[Mobius]

Then who should play Blue?

[ReadingChick]

I personally would prefer Johnny Depp for Hatter with Viggo Mortensen for adult Dodge and Jim Carrey for Bibwit.

But that's just my opinion.

Jim Carrey as Bibwit? That would totally rule! :D I've always thought of Bibwit as a comic sort of character.

[Hatter's Blade 36]

Jim Carrey as Bibwit? That would totally rule! :D I've always thought of Bibwit as a comic sort of character.
:confused: Jim Carrey as Bibwit?!!! Are you insane? Bibwit is a little comedic, I agree, but he has to act and look sophisticated and, well, Carrey can really only do comidies. This is a Fantasy Drama, people. I mean he's a fairly good actor and all, but did you see Series of Unfortunate Events? He made that movie too happy!! His character acted like a 4 year old! I mean seriously, I personally do not think that he is mature enough to do this role. I would say either Paul Bettany or Jeremy Irons for the role of Bibwit. Jim Carrey?

[Mobius]

:confused: Jim Carrey as Bibwit?!!! Are you insane? Bibwit is a little comedic, I agree, but he has to act and look sophisticated and, well, Carrey can really only do comidies. This is a Fantasy Drama, people. I mean he's a fairly good actor and all, but did you see Series of Unfortunate Events? He made that movie too happy!! His character acted like a 4 year old! I mean seriously, I personally do not think that he is mature enough to do this role. I would say either Paul Bettany or Jeremy Irons for the role of Bibwit. Jim Carrey?

He can do dramas. AND thrillers.
Note the Number 23.

[ReadingChick]

:confused: Jim Carrey as Bibwit?!!! Are you insane? Bibwit is a little comedic, I agree, but he has to act and look sophisticated and, well, Carrey can really only do comidies. This is a Fantasy Drama, people. I mean he's a fairly good actor and all, but did you see Series of Unfortunate Events? He made that movie too happy!! His character acted like a 4 year old! I mean seriously, I personally do not think that he is mature enough to do this role. I would say either Paul Bettany or Jeremy Irons for the role of Bibwit. Jim Carrey?

:mad: Geez, you don't have to be rude! I LIKED what he did for Count Olaf in A Series of Unfortunate Events.

[Queen Alyss]

did you see Series of Unfortunate Events? He made that movie too happy!! His character acted like a 4 year old!


They obviously wanted him to act like that, otherwise they would have hired someone else.

[dark_faerie_knight]

:confused: Jim Carrey as Bibwit?!!! Are you insane? Bibwit is a little comedic, I agree, but he has to act and look sophisticated and, well, Carrey can really only do comidies. This is a Fantasy Drama, people. I mean he's a fairly good actor and all, but did you see Series of Unfortunate Events? He made that movie too happy!! His character acted like a 4 year old! I mean seriously, I personally do not think that he is mature enough to do this role. I would say either Paul Bettany or Jeremy Irons for the role of Bibwit. Jim Carrey?

i have to agree on thta...if carrey were to be bibwit, it would totaly screw everything up. the tone of the fantasy would be lopsided. besides, carrey already scared me enuff being the grinch and i cant thnk of what he might do to bibwits character.

[xTwilightKissx]

well what would you guys think of a CGI kind of movie. Something like final fantasy advent children?

[Queen Alyss]

I'd rather it be real with some CGI effects.

[Mobius]

well what would you guys think of a CGI kind of movie. Something like final fantasy advent children?

That movie is sw33t.

[Mad Hatter Madigan]

I think it's a good idea...
BUT

I do think the card soldiers they show in the site's intro look too much like the robots in the Star Wars Prequel...

The Cut in the book are human and machine... and should look accordingly...

I wondered why would Redd insist on living cyborgs instead of full machines...
The it made sense to me, imagination can not kill what has the desire to live.

Machines wouldn't have the desire or feelings to withstand a direct imagination shutdown.

[Mobius]

Machines wouldn't have the desire or feelings to withstand a direct imagination shutdown.

That's because Redd is an idiot.
Remember she never paid attention to Bibwit's tutorings.

[Mad Hatter Madigan]

Um... please re-read my comment...
I said now know why she did it...

-Imagination can't kill something living, due to it's will to live.
-The Cut are not robots, but rather cyborgs...
-Therefore no imagination can kill the Cut...
-The Cut have a will to live

It's a simple mistake... but please try to keep up.

:D

[Mobius]

She's still an idiot. xD

[Mad Hatter Madigan]

I would say ignorant and prideful.

[Queen Alyss]

I wondered why would Redd insist on living cyborgs instead of full machines...


Maybe she enjoyed their pain?

[MadAboutLGW]

The movie has to be made! :D It will be fantastic!!!!!! (sorry bout the spellin)

Here is my casting ideas:
Alyss: Kristen Stewart
Dodge: Jonas Armstrong or Trent Ford:p
Bibwit: Doug Jones
Redd: ?
Genevive: Rachel Weisz
Nolan: Hugh Jackman
Charles Dodgson: Kelsey Grammar
Alyss' adoptive father: Matthew Broderick

Hey, btw everyone....I'm new. My name is Tiffany, 17, and I'm from Australia xxxxxx

[Alyss-Victoria]

well i think who ever put that castin list up is totally wrong i think:p
alyss: rachel mcadams
dodge: matt damon
Queen Geniveive: merail streep
redd:Kiersten Warren
the cat (voice):antonio banderes:rolleyes:
Bibwit: Kelsey Gramar
General Dollopagergrager:Viggo Mortensen
young alyss:Miley Cyrus
young dodge: Devon werkheiser
Jake of diamonds:Larry Joe Campbell
young jack:spencer breslin
King Nolan: Sean Bean
hattter: Hugh Jackman
white knight: Alex King
king of Borderland: John Cleese

btw i also think that they should call it Alyss or The Queen of Hearts not LGW because if they do itll be less catchy and also its a really random name !

Brisbane Australia:cool:

[Princess Alyss Heart]

btw i also think that they should call it Alyss or The Queen of Hearts not LGW because if they do itll be less catchy and also its a really random name !



actually i dont think that they should call the movie Alyss because if American McGee's Alice is also being made into a movie, wouldnt it sound a bit strange if two movies are titled the same thing? Definately not the Queen of Hearts because its not as catchy as The Looking Glass Wars. LGW is a random name, but its unique and it caught my attention when i first heard of the book. LGW is a book, as everyone knows,and if they are going to base the movie on the book, then why would they name the movie something else other than what the original,unique,and slightly random title actually is? Im sorry if i sound a bit forward.....:p

[The Dark Hatter]

there will be a movie, Mr.Frank Beddorcame to our school and said there will be one!:)
Frank Beddor came to your school? :eek:
Lucky lucky.

[The Dark Hatter]

[quote=McGeesJabberwock] Anyway...casting...

Alyss - Kate Beckinsale
Dodge - Hayden Christensen
Hatter - Hugh Jackman
Bibwit - Anthony Hopkins or Michael Caine
Redd - Anne Robinson
The Cat - Tim Curry
Jack - Steve Buscemi
Lewis Carroll - Bill Murray
quote]

I think Hayden Christian would do great, but him fighting the Cut would be so star wars.
Also, Brad Pitt might do a good job.

[The Dark Hatter]

I really like the idea of a LGW movie, the book is so much like a movie, in the desriptions of landscapes, fights and general action. I can't wait to see it in theaters!!!!

I've been drawing like crazy in my sketchbook since I finished reading the book, but I didn't suceed a full and clean fanart, I hope I'll finish at least one drawing, so I can ask advices from people who have read the book here^^"

Btw, I'm new around here, Name is Alicia, 22 from Paris, nice to meet you guys!
Hi new around here, name is Alicia, 22 from Paris, nice to meet you. :D
i agree about alice having blonde hair, that would be horrible. (directors can be pretty stupid, though. remember what they did to Eragon?) :rolleyes:
We can only hope and pray that they pick a pretty brunnete with dreamy blue eyes. I am probably fantasizing, though. Like I said, Directors can be stupid.
As for drawing, i am a strange case. in some areas, i do great, mainly drawing monsters and fantasy creatures, but when I try to draw a simple picture, like a corn cob, i reek. i would like to see your work, though.
by the way, wat the heck does Btw mean?

[The Dark Hatter]

It wouldn't be a horror flick, but they should definitely wait. We had LOTR, then Narnia, then Eragon, so if LGW came along now, it would just be following a trend.... a crappy, crappy trend.
So are you saying that LOTR, Narnia, and Eragon are crappy films?!?
i thought lotr and narnia were great. don't know about eragon, though. they could have done a better job.
and anyway, lgw is not exactly trendy in that sense. LGW is much darker, much more bizarre, much wearder than any of those flicks.

[Rooks]

Actually I think CGI would be the best way to go for this movie, similar in style to Sin City, 300, and now Beowulf. Though lets face it, everything uses a little bit of CGI now-a-days.

I'm not sure they can truly get across what is needed without it, though perhaps that is just what my mind pictures when I read the books.

[The Dark Hatter]

I'm really not sure. I think both CGI and Live Action would both go pretty well. Either way. ;)

[Homburg Scott]

young alyss:Miley Cyrus
young dodge: Devon werkheiser

young jack:spencer breslin


btw i also think that they should call it Alyss or The Queen of Hearts not LGW because if they do itll be less catchy and also its a really random name !

Brisbane Australia:cool:
Alyss is seven in the beginning and miley definitely doesn't look seven anymore and dodge and jack are both 10 in the beginning which devon and spencer are not 10 years old . and it's either LGW or nothing .

[Alyss*Fan_]

hayden pantier or what ever no way she would not do alyss justice in this story and plus alyss is supossed to have divine beauty and well let's face it hayden is just cute:o. so this is what i think that the cast should be.

Alyss-kiera knightly or mila jovivich
dodge-christian bale
redd-kate blanchett
hatter M.-this is hard needs a really good actor not just anyone
the cat-this is hard to needs someone with witt
bibwit-sir Ian Mckellan(gandollf, from lord of the rings)

ok now those actors/actresses would serve this fantastic book justice!:D

[Alyss*Fan_]

miley cyrus?! If she were cast in this film I would have to skip it even though it is the love of my life.

[The Dark Hatter]

Me too. Kiera Knightly would do a great job as alice.

[BlakCat]

Alyss: Kate Beckinsale
Dodge: Would have to be handsome... ??
Hatter: Alan Cumming
Redd: Michelle Phiffer
Bibwit: Anthony Hopkins
Cat: ??

I absolutely have a crush on Alan Cumming, but I've seen some of his movies and he usually dresses up in costumes with flowing capes, so could you imagine him wearing Hatter's green suit, cape, and top-hat? He's got the perfect complexion for Hatter, and he is an amazing actor!

Please, if any directors are reading this, consider Alan!! :)

I think Michelle Phiffer would be good as Redd, as she's played some villaness roles, like in Stardust, but she'd probably have to dye her hair brunette or something, we definitely need a more experienced actress to play Redd, and Anthony Hopkins speaks for himself :D

[The Dark Hatter]

I think Hatter should be Matthew Macfadyen. (-:

[Alyss*Fan_]

:confused: Jim Carrey as Bibwit?!!! Are you insane? Bibwit is a little comedic, I agree, but he has to act and look sophisticated and, well, Carrey can really only do comidies. This is a Fantasy Drama, people. I mean he's a fairly good actor and all, but did you see Series of Unfortunate Events? He made that movie too happy!! His character acted like a 4 year old! I mean seriously, I personally do not think that he is mature enough to do this role. I would say either Paul Bettany or Jeremy Irons for the role of Bibwit. Jim Carrey?


TOTALLY jim carrey would so not do this movie justice jeremy irons would be a auesome bibwit, but i still think that the best bibwit would be played by Ian McKellen
also known as Gandalf from lord of the rings

[Alyss*Fan_]

This is what i think the cast should be...


Alyss- Hayden Panettiere
Dodge- Alex Pettyfer
Redd- Shannyn Sossamon (White Knight I like this idea)
The Cat- Steve Buscemi or Tim Curry
Hatter- Hugh Jackman
Bibwit- Sean Connery
Jack- Chad Michael Murray

seriously people hayden pantyier as alss ARE YOU KIDDING? my god she would kill the movie let her stay on heros and not screw up any more movies or shows JEEZ. and chad michael murry honey he is a pretty boy and he can't act to save his life and jack is supposed to be fat and pompus and just irritating. Really?Really? no serious are you kidding?

[are_you_seeing_redd]

A blonde Alyss? No. Brunettes are always better, and since Beddor said she was a brunette/black haired girl, she has to be that. Or else the movie will be seriously screwed up.

[Her Imperial Viciousness]

A blonde Alyss? No. Brunettes are always better, and since Beddor said she was a brunette/black haired girl, she has to be that. Or else the movie will be seriously screwed up.

Seconded. The fact that Alyss is dark-haired is one of the key differentials between "Alice" and "Alyss". So yeah, if someone is currently blonde, they'lll need either a wig or a dye job.

[are_you_seeing_redd]

Seconded. The fact that Alyss is dark-haired is one of the key differentials between "Alice" and "Alyss". So yeah, if someone is currently blonde, they'lll need either a wig or a dye job.

No kidding. Besides, (no offense to anyone) brunettes are always better.

[Heart Artemis Hunter]

This is what i think the cast should be...


Alyss- Hayden Panettiere
Dodge- Alex Pettyfer
Redd- Shannyn Sossamon (White Knight I like this idea)
The Cat- Steve Buscemi or Tim Curry
Hatter- Hugh Jackman
Bibwit- Sean Connery
Jack- Chad Michael Murray

Excuse me, i should be Alyss, and yes! Alex Pettyfer! Finally someone who understands the meaning of "Good-acting"! i did a report on Alex before......:D Dudes, Fungi out.

[Heart Artemis Hunter]

Me too. Kiera Knightly would do a great job as alice.

OH MY FUNGI!!!! you spelled Alyss wrong!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Loki]

my dream cast for this movie is as follows :D

Director: Tim Burton- Sweeny Todd

Alyss (adult): Kierra Knightly- Pirates 1-3
Dodge (adult): Joe Anderson- Across the Universe
Hatter: Johnny Depp- Sweeny Todd
Genevieve:Emily Mortimer- Pink Panther
Molly Homburg: Dakota Fanning- War of the Worlds
Redd: Helena Bohnum Carter- Sweeny Todd
Cat: Andy Sirkus- Kong and Lord of the Rings

This is what i've got so far....

I want Helena to play Redd, there is no one else that can pull off her childish selfish vindictiveness better than Helena. If Depp is in this film regular Depp fans would flock to this film. For Dodge i picked Joe Anderson because all you gotta do is give him a scar and a new attitude and he could be Dodge.

[Madigan's♥Luver]

i dont know who anyone else should be but i think that genevieve should be alison sweeney-days of our lives-sammy

[misspriss2009]

my dream cast for this movie is as follows :D

Director: Tim Burton- Sweeny Todd

Alyss (adult): Kierra Knightly- Pirates 1-3
Dodge (adult): Joe Anderson- Across the Universe
Hatter: Johnny Depp- Sweeny Todd
Genevieve:Emily Mortimer- Pink Panther
Molly Homburg: Dakota Fanning- War of the Worlds
Redd: Helena Bohnum Carter- Sweeny Todd
Cat: Andy Sirkus- Kong and Lord of the Rings

This is what i've got so far....

I want Helena to play Redd, there is no one else that can pull off her childish selfish vindictiveness better than Helena. If Depp is in this film regular Depp fans would flock to this film. For Dodge i picked Joe Anderson because all you gotta do is give him a scar and a new attitude and he could be Dodge.

no dakota fanning is soooo not the homburg molly type..... shes wayyyy to young and wayyyy to sicking sweet

[Loki]

well i'll agree with you there, she was just off the top of my head. but i still want Helena Bohnum Carter to play Redd. She is the one person that is a definite for this movie

[Heart Artemis Hunter]

i dont know who anyone else should be but i think that genevieve should be alison sweeney-days of our lives-sammy
We got it, Madi. we got it. too bad i can't get some one famous to play in my movie of this, If Alyss didn't jump into the Pool of Tears..... Fungi out...:D

[Loiterer]

Can anyone else see Doug Jones as the Cat? Saw him in Hellboy and Pan's Labyrinth and I can really see him pulling off the physicality of playing Redd's top assassin...

[I'm Siding With Fantasy]

^That would be interesting.

Hm...
Here's my two cents:

Hatter Madigan - Hugh Jackman.
Redd - Sigourney Weaver, perhaps? I think of her as the Warden in Holes, and it makes me think of Redd. I don't really know.

[Loiterer]

hmm.... Redd is a hard one. It's hard to picture genuinely evil and slightly homicidal women without initially seeing my boss...

For some reason, I think Julian Rhind-Tutt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Rhind-Tutt) would make a good King Nolan. Since no ages are given for either Nolan or Genevieve, they could be young. Like that old saying about the good and dying...

I also think Bill Bailey would make a good Walrus Butler...

[Alyss*Fan_]

No kidding. Besides, (no offense to anyone) brunettes are always better.

LOL I LOVE YOUR SIGNATURE, CRAPOLLA you have no clue how hard it is to aacept that edaward cullen is not real and did you hear who their casting as him in the new movie!!! it's a wonderful choice if you want to knwo because i won't ruin it for you go to... http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ and then just look around and you'll find it. AGGGHHH i want my own Edward! :(

[Her Imperial Viciousness]

hmm.... Redd is a hard one. It's hard to picture genuinely evil and slightly homicidal women without initially seeing my boss...

For some reason, I think Julian Rhind-Tutt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Rhind-Tutt) would make a good King Nolan. Since no ages are given for either Nolan or Genevieve, they could be young. Like that old saying about the good and dying...

I also think Bill Bailey would make a good Walrus Butler...

If it helps, I asked Redd's age, and FB estimated around mid to late 30's, so Genevieve is likely not far behind.

[Loki]

I still say that Helena Bohnum Carter should play Redd. Redd's character is both a vindictive woman and a cruel child laughing at burning ants. You would need to have someone who can pull off a childish and immature attitude while still displaying the egocentricities of a grown woman along with her homicidal imperialistic view of herself. That's why i think Helena can pull it off, after seeing her in Sweeney Todd i know she can make us proud playing Redd.

[Alyss*Fan_]

I still say that Helena Bohnum Carter should play Redd. Redd's character is both a vindictive woman and a cruel child laughing at burning ants. You would need to have someone who can pull off a childish and immature attitude while still displaying the egocentricities of a grown woman along with her homicidal imperialistic view of herself. That's why i think Helena can pull it off, after seeing her in Sweeney Todd i know she can make us proud playing Redd.

YOU ARE A GENIUS, that is a wonderful choice for Redd why didn't i think of that she would portray Redd beautifully and she would make us proud.

[Her Imperial Viciousness]

YOU ARE A GENIUS, that is a wonderful choice for Redd why didn't i think of that she would portray Redd beautifully and she would make us proud.

If it's Helena, I do not want a Carter/Depp combo.

It's been done. Twice now.

I'm very much for the idea of change.


...but this is bitter Aunt Redd talking.

[ReadingChick]

If it's Helena, I do not want a Carter/Depp combo.

It's been done. Twice now.

I'm very much for the idea of change.


...but this is bitter Aunt Redd talking.

Is that an objection to Carter herself, or just Carter with Depp?

[Loiterer]

I'd say Carter with Depp and I agree. I'll agree they're both fine actors, but I do find it irritating when I see the same screen couple again and again...

[Her Imperial Viciousness]

Is that an objection to Carter herself, or just Carter with Depp?


Just Carter / Depp.

As said by Loiterer, we don't need to see the same combinations over and over again. At least, I don't.

I don't want to end up thinking "Wait, don't tell me, let me guess who they cast Depp and Carter again" every time a movie comes out.

[are_you_seeing_redd]

Just Carter / Depp.

As said by Loiterer, we don't need to see the same combinations over and over again. At least, I don't.

I don't want to end up thinking "Wait, don't tell me, let me guess who they cast Depp and Carter again" every time a movie comes out.


Who would Depp be good as anyways? I can't picture him as any of the characters, though Carter is a really good choice for Redd

[Molly_Madigan]

I've typed this in another thread, and I know that some people don't agree with me, but..

I don't think Carter would be a good actress for Redd, though maybe she'd make a good older Alyss.

My personal choice for Redd would be Miranda Richardson.

[Heart Artemis Hunter]

but Alex Pettyfer is blond....oh! hair dye dah! *bops self on forehead*

[Alyssian_Soldier13]

I think Liv Tyler would be a really good alyss and that Helena Carter is a really good candidate for Redd as well as Dakota Fannin for Homburg Molly

[AlyssH]

Does anyone else see Clive Owen as Hatter? He's tough and looks like he's been through a lot, but he can also be sensitive, and is a phenomenal actor (see CHILDREN OF MEN). Also, he's old enough to be Molly's father.

Speaking of Molly, Dakota Fanning is the complete WRONG choice for the character! Molly has to be independent, strong-willed, and somewhat hardened by having to fend for herself all those years. I personally think that they should hold open auditions for the part of Molly, and cast someone totally new. If they don't do that, though, I think that Dakota Blue Richards from THE GOLDEN COMPASS would fit the bill, having already played a tough young heroine.

And they should DEFINITELY make a movie! It has to be done really well, though.

[♥Alyss♥]

I'd really love to see the movie, if they make one. It says in the back of each L.G.W book that he IS making a movie. I just wonder when it'll be out?..I really want to see how the author see's the characters!!

[Alyssian_Soldier13]

Does anyone else see Clive Owen as Hatter? He's tough and looks like he's been through a lot, but he can also be sensitive, and is a phenomenal actor (see CHILDREN OF MEN). Also, he's old enough to be Molly's father.

Speaking of Molly, Dakota Fanning is the complete WRONG choice for the character! Molly has to be independent, strong-willed, and somewhat hardened by having to fend for herself all those years. I personally think that they should hold open auditions for the part of Molly, and cast someone totally new. If they don't do that, though, I think that Dakota Blue Richards from THE GOLDEN COMPASS would fit the bill, having already played a tough young heroine.

And they should DEFINITELY make a movie! It has to be done really well, though.

totally! i agree with AlyssH, Clive Owen is a WONDERFUL candidate for Hatter. i'm still fighting for Liv Tyler as Alyss, but for molly, im not so sure about the girl from THE GOLDEN COMPASS, its just that when you see her there, in a big movie based on a book, and then you watch her in LGW, you can help but think of her character from THE GOLDEN COMPASS. thats just what i think.

[bellabong95]

ok heres what I think... Alyss (and others) are such mysterious new kinds of charactors that if they had actors that already was well known it would screw everything up because people already have oppinions about the person as an actor or actress!! like in the Harry Potter movies the main roles were new to the acting world. It made people curious and made them JUST think about the movie!! not the actors and actresses in the movie! Cuz I know one of my parents favorite "games" while watching a movie is to figure out who the main character is in real life!! NOT GOOD for any of the lgw characters! Plus how are new people gonna get into the acting world if directors just use the same poeple over and over again?!?!

[AlyssH]

I see where you're coming from, bellabong95, and I completely agree that new actors and actresses should be given the chance to break into the business. It is my belief that they should definitely cast unknowns as younger parts, like Molly, young Alyss, and possibly others, like Dodge. But they should also have more experienced actors for parts like Alyss, Redd, and Hatter, so that the cast can be varied, and the newer actors can have some guidance.

By the way, I know what you're talking about with the actor-guessing--my parents do the same thing, and I even sometimes find myself doing it!

Oh, and thanks Alyssian_Soldier13 for agreeing with me! :-)

[bellabong95]

yeah lol me too! Plus I'd be a little jealous if someone known got casted!! I'd really really love to be in it!! =D

[AlyssH]

I know what you mean, bellabong95! *grins sheepishly* I totally want to play Molly!

[Molly_Madigan]

Hmm, on the note of being in the movie or a friend being in the movie.. I would love it.. even if it wasn't me.

(because then I might get to go on set anyway! :D)

[Molly_Madigan]

I see where you're coming from, bellabong95, and I completely agree that new actors and actresses should be given the chance to break into the business. It is my belief that they should definitely cast unknowns as younger parts, like Molly, young Alyss, and possibly others, like Dodge. But they should also have more experienced actors for parts like Alyss, Redd, and Hatter, so that the cast can be varied, and the newer actors can have some guidance.


Honestly in my opinion I believe that the cast of the LGW movie should be dark, but not sinister. A great example of this would be someone who's had experience in multiple genre of movies.. Take my choice of Redd Heart for example (Miranda Richardson) she's had the queenly experience (She's played the Queen of Hearts and the Queen from Black Adder), She's played in Horror movies (Sleepy Hollow with Christina Ricci and Johnny Depp), and she's played in fantasy movies before (she was Queen Mab and the Lady of the Lake in Merlin). She's been in over 70 films and more things besides, but she would be the best choice for Redd in my own humble opinion.

Also, I believe in holding open auditions for all characters involved in the story, but the people doing the auditions have to remember that experience is going to help out. If you haven't had any acting or performing experience you are probably not going to get selected. And the directors have to understand that if they choose someone with no experience then they're not going to get much.

Now I understand that some people won't read this because its so long, but I don't care, I felt like typing and it happened, also if I upset anyone with this then Sorry. Though I don't know why you would get upset. (Just put the last sentences in because I got blown up on before because of typing something like this in another message board before.)

[bellabong95]

oh lol don't worry I wont blow up!!! lol

I respect your opinion totally and agree with you! but still lol I would love it if they gave normal people just the ittly tiny chance to be in it! you know!?

lol and to AlyssH I totally would love to be Molly too!!

but most of all I'd like to be Alyss! Even though I have an exremely tiny chance of getting the part!!

Are you planning on auditioning?

[AlyssH]

Heck yes! I'm already saving my money in case the auditions are far away, so that my parents can't have any objections! As I think I've stated in other threads, I believe that acting is what I am meant to do.

[bellabong95]

oh your soooo lucky!! My parents are TOTALLY objective to anything involving acting except for school plays!! sigh... lol and i agree! Acting is my absolute passion! I think eventualy they might understand! I'm just gonna have tow ait and see!

When do you think they'll start auditions?

[AlyssH]

I'm not lucky--I'm just doing the best I can to secure a "yes" when the time comes. I'm sure they will still throw up a wall of reasons I shouldn't audition, like "It'll interrupt school" and "What about us being at work?" and stuff like that. So you're not alone. :-)

Oh, and I think the term you're looking for is "object to" or "objectionable," or something. "objective" means unbiased and fair.

[Loiterer]

They probably just don't want you corrupted by, or even exposed to the Hollywood lifestyle. Drugs and whatnot. I think school might come into it, but if you're still in education, they (the film makers) would probably have a tutor on set anyway to make sure you get at least minimum education...

[AlyssH]

Yeah, I know that there's some kind of law requiring minors working on movies to get a certain number of hours of schooling each day, and usually that's done with a tutor.

And I know what you mean about the Hollywood lifestyle. What our society really needs now is an actor or actress who is a really good example, and gets in the news for GOOD things, not getting pregnant or entering rehab.

[bellabong95]

yeah! I totally agree with both of you!
me and my friend are really into auditioning (her parents are gonna let her though) partly because we love it! and partly because we want to prove it's possible to not do all the bad things actors do when their raised in the business!

[AlyssH]

OMG! I can COMPLETELY relate to what you're saying! If I ever become a famous actress (I wish), I plan to be a positive role model for girls everywhere. :-) I also will be an advocate for charities and peace and responsibility and intelligence.

But I think I might be counting my chickens just a tad too early...

[bellabong95]

same here! I always think oh my gosh I should audition for that I'll get it and be an amazing actress and be such a good role model!! and then i think about it the next day and i realize that millions of girls would be auditioning for that same part many of whom have way more acting experience!! lol =D

[ReddRum]

I think Chad Michael Murry would make a good Dodge. Naturally, Tim Curry should play The Cat.. Anjelica huston should be Redd. Hmmm.. who should play Alyss? I think Reese Witherspoon or Julia Stiles for the 'older' Alyss. As for the Tutor... Ben Stien! Hatter M.- thats a hard one....
But Anne is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too old!!

[cruzbuz]

Yea she is.. I really dont think chad micheal murray, he's a pretty boy... Also i dont think that hugh jackman should play Hatter cuz i think that he would be a little bit smaller to fit through spaces and do all those flips and crap...Btw its gunna be hard casting it cuz people already have images in their minds about who should play what...Someone isnt going to like the results so i think that everyone should just wait it out and see because the choices might be totally opposite from what they see (want).

[bellabong95]

Yeah, I agree Anne robably is too old... the person who plays redd has to be redd both when alyss is a child and when alyss is 20 so I think she should look like in her 40s or somewhere around that age....

[AlyssH]

I have previously posted this on the "Who will play Redd?" poll, but it seems appropriate to address here as well.

You all keep saying "She's the right age," or "No, she'd be too old," and stuff like that about different actresses for the part of Redd. Now I'd like everyone to stop and think for a minute about how old Redd actually is. I have a few points I'd like you to keep in mind when picturing Redd's age:

1) She is older than Queen Genevieve. She was supposed to rule Wonderland, but then her mother removed her from succession and gave the throne to her younger sister, Genevieve.

2) Genevieve must have been about thirty when Redd staged her coup. Most people don't (purposefully) have children until they're in their twenties (unless it's different in Wonderland). Alyss was seven when her mother was killed, therefore Genevieve must have been close to--if not older than--thirty. This puts Redd at least a couple years older than that.

3) Alyss was gone for thirteen years before returning to Wonderland. If we conservatively put Redd at about thirty-five at the time of her coup, she would be forty-eight when Alyss returned, probably closer to fifty.

So do the math, people, before deciding that an actress isn't the right age to play Redd.

Just thought I'd point that out.

[Her Imperial Viciousness]

I have previously posted this on the "Who will play Redd?" poll, but it seems appropriate to address here as well.

You all keep saying "She's the right age," or "No, she'd be too old," and stuff like that about different actresses for the part of Redd. Now I'd like everyone to stop and think for a minute about how old Redd actually is. I have a few points I'd like you to keep in mind when picturing Redd's age:

1) She is older than Queen Genevieve. She was supposed to rule Wonderland, but then her mother removed her from succession and gave the throne to her younger sister, Genevieve.

2) Genevieve must have been about thirty when Redd staged her coup. Most people don't (purposefully) have children until they're in their twenties (unless it's different in Wonderland). Alyss was seven when her mother was killed, therefore Genevieve must have been close to--if not older than--thirty. This puts Redd at least a couple years older than that.

3) Alyss was gone for thirteen years before returning to Wonderland. If we conservatively put Redd at about thirty-five at the time of her coup, she would be forty-eight when Alyss returned, probably closer to fifty.

So do the math, people, before deciding that an actress isn't the right age to play Redd.

Just thought I'd point that out.


FB stated that Redd was in her mid to late 30s or so when I asked him about how old she was. This is not entirely impossible because Redd killed Queen Theordora shortly after she found out that she wasn't going to be queen, and she was still in her teens then (I want to say around 16, give or take a year). She was off to Mount Isolation not long after that.

I'm trying to remember exactly HOW much younger Genevieve is, though I don't get the sense that there was a huge gap between the two.

The amount of time Redd spent on Mt. Isolation is something that I need to confirm directly (been having trouble with that one). However, it was, as mentioned, enough time for Genevieve to marry Nolan and have Alyss for 7 years, so I'd wager it was at least 10 years. I don't get the sense that people always waited until their 20's. Also, think about this: Alyss came to Earth at a time that if you weren't married by 20 you were creeping on spinsterhood. She was about to BE married herself (to Prince Leopold) when Hatter and the Cat came in on her.

Also, with Redd, I think you could get a young-looking woman in her mid-40's or a woman in her late 20's that could be aged significantly with the right makeup. Whoever plays her will be uglied up a bit either way.

[AlyssH]

Very good points, Imperial Viciousness. I agree that my estimations were just that--estimations. I just want people to be open to the fact that Redd could very well be in her mid- to late-forties, possibly even her fifties. An actress who is younger (20s or 30s) could certainly be hired, but keep in mind that Redd is probably older than that.

[Her Imperial Viciousness]

Just posted an update to the SDCC 08 thread I started a while back with panel information that mentions a "special effects movie trailer" to be shown during the panel.

Think it's new?

Speculation starts................now.